Story Outline https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/t12361 Runboard| Story Outline en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 13:33:16 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 13:33:16 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240519,from=rss#post240519https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240519,from=rss#post240519I hope you found/will find a way to take advantage of early morning wake-ups!nondisclosed_email@example.com (PaulKater)Sat, 25 May 2019 07:26:03 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240518,from=rss#post240518https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240518,from=rss#post240518Thanks. I woke up early again this morning. Which might not be a bad thing. I've always been a night owl, and maybe I'm turning into a morning person. I think being a morning person works better, since the world is more active during the day, than at night. I'll just have to adjust. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Joxcenia)Sat, 25 May 2019 03:26:56 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240513,from=rss#post240513https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240513,from=rss#post240513*hugs* That's a really good idea. And I hope you'll get some nice sleep tonight.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Firlefanz)Fri, 24 May 2019 18:07:25 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240510,from=rss#post240510https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240510,from=rss#post240510Yeah. Okay. D'oh! It's just that I know a pantser that uses this as a structure when rewriting a first draft. I worded it wrong, but I meant that Rick could try it after he's written his first draft to see if it works for him then. And if it doesn't, to just chuck it altogether. I can't think straight when I'm tired. LOL I hadn't had much sleep yesterday. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Joxcenia)Thu, 23 May 2019 20:30:29 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240505,from=rss#post240505https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240505,from=rss#post240505It's a tool for plotters. If you like to plan out a story, write out chapter headers and prefer to know exactly what will happen BEFORE you write the story, all these act-structure tools are useful. Plotting itself is useful, especially for writing fast. And yet... I cannot plot a story completely, because that means I'll never, ever write it.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Firlefanz)Thu, 23 May 2019 07:56:02 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240503,from=rss#post240503https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240503,from=rss#post240503Rick, I don't think this is supposed to be used on the first draft. It's for when you are editing and rewriting. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Joxcenia)Thu, 23 May 2019 07:34:03 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240498,from=rss#post240498https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240498,from=rss#post240498I'd stop looking at this kind of toys, Rick. As you say, it eats up time. Spend that more wisely. Write. Right?nondisclosed_email@example.com (PaulKater)Wed, 22 May 2019 16:49:56 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240495,from=rss#post240495https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240495,from=rss#post240495The trouble I perceived when attempting to use this type of outline was the amount of time I spent looking for the place a "pinch point" was supposed to come into play on my stories. Given my free time constraints, it looked like a self-defeating block to my getting the story written!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Pastor Rick)Wed, 22 May 2019 15:59:51 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240481,from=rss#post240481https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240481,from=rss#post240481I've seen story structures like these totally stifle an author. If you try to squeeze your imagination into a fixed structure like this, it may work. Or it may kill the story - and I prefer killing the structure instead.   nondisclosed_email@example.com (Firlefanz)Tue, 21 May 2019 17:36:08 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240472,from=rss#post240472https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240472,from=rss#post240472I loathe structures like that. Of course, there will be writers who need that in order to get their plan and plot going. My stories tend to jump around, making the reader wonder what will happen next. Just like I wonder when I write things down. The important thing I've learnt is to add breaks into the story. It shouldn't be action upon action upon action. Readers need time to breathe too.nondisclosed_email@example.com (PaulKater)Mon, 20 May 2019 17:43:55 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240142,from=rss#post240142https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240142,from=rss#post240142I think it is a good idea to change the story structure 'titles' to ones that best suits the individual writer. Whatever helps you to know when and where to do this and that. I don't see why a writer can't rework any and all of the rules, if it benefits their writing. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Joxcenia)Sat, 10 Nov 2018 06:48:53 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240127,from=rss#post240127https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240127,from=rss#post240127I have to admit I am not at all good with formal story structure. That's because I do this mostly intuitively - the typical attitude of a pantser. (There is a better name for it. Dean Wesley Smith calls it "Writing Into the Dark". ) I would prefer calling the "pinch points" squeeze points. Because that's where you increase the pressure and tension. Also, in this particular structure, I would call the "plot points" turning points. Because that's where the story actually turns: Plot Point One is where the hero makes the decision to go for it. Or maybe it is made for him or her or it. At any rate, the story moves from "beginning" to "middle". Things get serious and progressively worse. (Yes, there might be good things inbetween to lighten tension, etc.) Plot Point Two is actually the classic "all is lost" point that tends to mark the shift from the "middle" to the climax and conclusion. I tend to use plot point in a much loser way, they are basically the landmarks on my journey into the darkness or fog (love the Terry Pratchett quote) - moments and scenes I already know I want to hit in my story. They are minor, really.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Firlefanz)Fri, 09 Nov 2018 09:40:43 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240121,from=rss#post240121https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p240121,from=rss#post240121Not ten years late, this time, so I'm doing better! I think I'd just add that I've always viewed pinch points as an opportunity to ratchet up the story's tension. It's more than just spending a bit of time with the antagonist, getting to know them better; it's letting the reader/viewer perceive (perhaps more clearly than the protagonist) just how royally screwed the protagonist is. If plot points are the moments where things come to a head and the protagonist's world changes forever, pinch points are where we get those first feelings of dread in the pits of our stomachs. A perfect example would be Saruman's "To waaaaaaaaar!" speech at Isengard, where we get to see the full might of his army mere moments after we think our heroes have made it to safety in Helm's Deep. Or The Spy Who Loved Me, when Strongberg kills his assistant and the two scientists, demonstrating how ruthless he is and thus how hard Bond will have to work to beat him. Or Deadpool where we see how happy he and Vanessa are together and we just know it's too good to be true. These aren't the high, exciting climaxes; but they're a clear signpost that says, "Hey, it's coming!" (I have no idea which idiot called them pinch points, though--the phrase puts me in mind of a bottleneck)nondisclosed_email@example.com (Flasheart2006)Thu, 08 Nov 2018 18:18:58 +0000 Re: Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p239982,from=rss#post239982https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p239982,from=rss#post239982I Googled: Screenwriting Novel Writing Pinch Point https://www.google.com/search?q=Screenwriting+Novel+Writing+Pinch+Point I've seen 'pinch point' in my screenwriting books, so that's why I included that in the search. quote: http://blog.karenwoodward.org/2012/11/using-pinch-points-to-increase.html A pinch point is a reminder. It's a reminder of who the antagonist is and what is at stake. Further, this reminder isn't filtered by the hero's experience. In other words, it's not just how the hero sees the antagonist, or antagonistic force, this is how they are. Here we see their true nature. (Story Structure Series: #9 – Pinch Points, Larry Brooks) http://storyfix.com/story-structure-series-9-pinch-points http://storyfix.com/the-unspoken-pinch-point-your-climax Search: http://storyfix.com/?s=Pinch+Points https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Screenwriting+Novel+Writing+Pinch+Point nondisclosed_email@example.com (Joxcenia)Wed, 03 Oct 2018 01:20:23 +0000 Story Outlinehttps://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p239981,from=rss#post239981https://bmysticaladventures.runboard.com/p239981,from=rss#post239981 What is a "pinch point?"nondisclosed_email@example.com (Pastor Rick)Tue, 02 Oct 2018 11:50:36 +0000