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So yeah, I'm not going to the cinema often. And I was dragged into this movie, knowing that it wouldn't, couldn't end well. (Actually... it did end well, just not in a happy way.)

After all, I still remember that throw-away sentence about the plans of the Death Star "being bought by many lives".

And yet, it has good story telling. And it didn't fall into the trap of creating a love story in the middle of it. No final kiss - loved that.

Solid movie, and very much a Star Wars movie by the feel, the settings, the props, the silly, silly stuff, the banter, and the oppression.

Well done. emoticon

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I was happy to discover that my story wasn't as ruthless... emoticon

The wife and I made a mistake and went to see it when we were both tired. She had been up 25 hours and I had been up 22 hours.

It was very good but even so, both of us were so busy fighting off the sleep monster which distracted from our enjoyment...

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I'm sorry you had to fight the sleep monster.

Hope you can get more sleep on a regular basis, though. emoticon

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Yeah, I enjoyed it as well, Firle.

Like you say, it felt like the "real" Star Wars, which I think was key. There were a few plot holes, but they were typical fluff-scifi plot holes, not major, glaring, "you've got to be kidding me" sorts of holes that ruin the story. I can't say it was the very best movie I've ever seen, but it's a nice addition to the Star Wars universe and a solid film.

<<< STOP READING IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS! >>>
<<< I MEAN IT! >>>
<<< DON'T BLAME ME IF YOU KEEP GOING! >>>

...Anyhow...

I think the part I liked best was towards the end, when it became obvious that unlike in the regular Star Wars movies, getting the plans for the Death Star was a team effort, not just the work of a single individual. People were in three or four different places doing critical things, and if any one of them had failed, the whole effort would have failed. To me, that struck of realism, not to mention making the film interesting and allowing more of the fighting to be seen without feeling staged.

On the other hand... seriously, for a film with a very strong female protagonist, they did a lousy job with anti-sexism everywhere else. Apparently, if you're a girl in Star Wars, you're pretty much only supposed to be a counselor or a Main Character. Not a single one of the engineers or fighters was a woman. Not one. That struck me as really odd feeling. And also pointless, since those people were all red-shirts anyhow. It wouldn't have cost anything to make half of them female (or even a quarter, since it's fair to make most physical fighters male, based on simple biology). So why didn't they? My best guess: because the writers/director were all guys, and it never even occurred to them. But as a woman engineer, it was screamingly obvious to me, that's all I'm saying. And annoying. I'm not exactly a raging feminist, but if Hollywood wants to encourage women, equal rights for red-shirts is a really simple, reasonable way to do it. Just saying,

But I will hop off my soap box.

Best line of the movie, by the way, way, "Are you kidding? I'm BLIND!" when they hooded the blind semi-jedi guy. emoticon Well written, there!

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Hah! Yes, I loved that line.

And I think I did see some female fighters in the orange jump suits and thought, finally! You're right, though, they were still underrepresented.

The other thing I really loved was that they didn't develop a romance plot between the two main characters. Because honestly, that wasn't part of their lives and they didn't really have time for it, either.

So the fact they don't kiss at the end just felt very, very right.

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Not even when they were about to die. I think a kiss would have been completely wrong in that situation - they are two humans in their last moments ever, and they cling to each other because of that, but romance? Far from it. There's no space at all for that. They do manage to be proud of a job well done, and that's as good at it gets.

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Yes, I entirely agree. Congrats to them for making it NOT a romance story, but just one based on two friendly people who need to get a job done.

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Loved it. Really hope the Solo movie will go to similar heights, but also pretty much scared it wouldn't.

Wonder what the re-shots did, based on the first trailer I think they planned an even more darker take then what we got.

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Not sure I want to see the Solo one...

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