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I got brave and actually read Eragon by Christopher Paolini. I was a little reluctant to approach it, because I had heard so many bad things about it. I also stayed away from it because I was fed up with all the hype about the young author.

Well ... it's okay. Not a brilliant book, but better than a lot of what's out there in fantasy. Yes, the plot is linear, yes, it uses very predictable characters, yes, it's reusing story elements from Lord of the Rings as well as Star Wars ... it's still okay to read. And it helped me spend two afternoons doing what I haven't done in ages: Just to sit down and enjoy a book.

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I was just having this conversation (about a different book, but the same conversation).

Sometimes, a simple book where there are no challenges and nothing is expected of the reader is a good break.

I found it hard to get past the first half or so of the book. The infodumping was a little harsh.

So, Brom, tell me about: _____
Well, Eragon, _____ is ____.
Okay, then tell me about _____.
Well, _____ is _____ and ____ but not ____.

It all seemed to follow this style of conversation. The later parts of the book were pretty exciting, that's for sure. I haven't read Eldest, but if he can get away from the way the first one started and keep on with the action, it will probably be a good, if unchallenging book.

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Oh gods. I hate Eragon and that author. I got the book as a gift after it came out. Read a chapter. Promptly returned it and bought something actually worth reading.

Just because his family has ties with a publishing house, does NOT mean he's worthy to be published. Had that manuscript come to my desk I'd have put it in the trash.

Yes, I am being a bit hard (and I wouldn't blame anyone if they called me close to a witch...), but frankly, I saw *nothing* in that book that was even fairly done. I was mad enough that it was as well received as it was by the public to justify a sequel. I was genuinely pissed when they felt the need to make it into a movie. I have not, and will not see it. Nor will I touch the sequel.

And yes, there are worse things in the fantasy genre being put on shelves, but you don't see much of it getting as highly acclaimed. I think it was all because he wrote it at 16 (I'm pretty sure) and is still a young author.

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Thora, that's exactly what I thought before my husband borrowed the book and I read it because I had little else fantasy-wise.

I hate the hype that made this kid famous, and yes, I think there's better fantasy out there. (Mine, for example. emoticon ) And yet, almost despite myself, I enjoyed the time I spent with the book.

And I can honestly say that I read worse, from famous authors, at that.

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Oh, I don't doubt that there's much worse out there. And I'm too much of a Taurus to give that book another shot. emoticon

I did start reading another Calvino--"Marcovaldo or The Seasons in the city." (Yes, I'm a crazy Calvino fan. emoticon ) It's pretty good. It's quite a bit lighter than his other novels, but still good.

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Robert Newcomb is another one who has close ties to the publishing world, I believe. His books are far, far worse than Eragon.

I think he started the book when he was 15. He finished it when he was 19. That's what I remember, anyway.

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This makes me wonder whether I should read it or not, I'm kind of unsure..., on that note hype always confuses matters so much cause getting an unbiased view becomes next to impossible. emoticon
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My thinking has always been: Start it. If it's not good, you can always trade it to the used book store (return it to the library). Or you could force your way through it. I try as hard as I can to forget everything anyone says about a book before I read it.

I hate going into something with preconceived notions or expectations.

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Try it, QS2. I read it and, like some others here have said, found it enjoyable. It's not by ANY means the best piece of fantasy out there, but it's not bad. About average for a random piece of dragon-containing fantasy that you pick off the library shelf, in my opinion. I really don't understand how it got so famous, but you can't really blame the author for that.

As Firle said, it DOES use some recycled plot -- but not as much as, say, Terry Brook's "Sword of Shannara" did. (Which, mind you isn't much of a compliment, since I HATED "Shannara".) Point is, go in expecting just a story and nothing great and you'll come out entertained. Which isn't a bad thing for a book, really.

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I started reading Black Sun Rising by CS Friedman. It's good so far. I'm a little put off by the main character's dialogue sometimes but for the most part it's a solid book with good characters.

I guess it's Sci-fi but it could just as easily (if not more easily) been a Fantasy.

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Ah yes, I read Black Sun Rising. I thought it very odd, but I think I did enjoy it. It was eons ago so I don't remember too much unfortunately.


I am about to start "Elantris" by Brandon Sanderson. I read the prologue and first couple pages and it seemed quite interesting.

(I just finished reading a whole bunch of short stories by P.G. Wodehouse, about the infamous Jeeves and Wooster. Excellent stuff, very British.) emoticon

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Oh Elantris is very good and quite unusual. Hope you enjoy it.

I quite like PG Wodehouse, I only read a book every so often and haven't read loads but I still like it.
I especially liked the word 'Worcestershirewards', but that's because I come from Worcestershire and so I have ocassion to use it. There isn't actually a Market Snodsbury but there is an Upton Snodsbury.
I quite like Jeeves and Wooster the TV programme, it's got Hugh Laurie as Bertie Wooster and Stephen Fry as Jeeves. It's great, a little like Blackadder but more realistic and dramatic. It's also fun cos Fry and Laurie both look quite young in it.

Sorry going off topic a bit. I'm currently reading 'The Name of the Wind' by Patrick Rothfuss. It seems quite interesting and a little different. But it's a huge book and I've only just started.

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I'm reading books about psychological therapies. emoticon

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I just read a free e-text of Wizard of Oz, from Project Gutenberg. It was great.

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Henry Rider Haggard - She.

It's a cheap edition and the typesetting is terrible! I'm sure my other edition doesn't have all these errors (though I haven't actually compared the texts).


(Why do I have two editions of the book? Because this is a two-novels-in-one edition which includes Ayesha - The Return of She, which I've had great difficulty finding before now.)



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I think I read in this thread about some Brandon Sanderson. Reading another post about free e-texts made me remember: Sanderson has a book for free download on his website [sign in to see URL]

Not a plug. I am not his publisher or his editor or him in disguise. Just thought I'd let you know about a free book.

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I'm three or four books into Erik Flint's "1632" series. It's pretty good, actually, though I went into it with some reservations since I'd never read alternative histories before. I'm not claiming "1632" is the best series ever, but it's a solid, good story, so I'd recommend it. It falls under the category of "happy, light entertainment" for me, which is always fun.

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It does seem an interesting series, yes. emoticon
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Now that I've gone and joined a sci-f and fantasy book club, my reading will probably pick up. I haven't done much in the way of serious reading in far too long... maybe that's one reason why it's getting so hard to write for me (not enough inspiration, perhaps)?

I'll probably take advantage of the club to sample series and authors I never really have before, which is a good thing, right?
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I haven't done much in the way of serious reading in far too long... maybe that's one reason why it's getting so hard to write for me (not enough inspiration, perhaps)?



I don't know. I usually find that if I start reading a good book -- or worse, a good series of books -- I end up writing LESS because I spend all my time reading instead!!

Have fun with the reading group!

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I finished Elantris last week (took me about 5 days) and I must say that I quite enjoyed it! So now I'm reading Mistborn (by the same author).

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Now I'm reading book one of the Wizard Knight duology by Gene Wolfe.

It is very interesting, very mythical, very fun, very odd. emoticon

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Do you mind if I ask what Elantris is about?
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Elantris is a city of godlike people.
Yet somehow it fell and its people are more like the living dead, than gods.
The book seeks to discover why it fell.
It also deals with a plot of religious takeover. One religion has sent a missionary to convert the nation, he has Three months (I think) in which to do this otherwise the army will come down and destroy all the heathens. emoticon

So you have two plots. The dead city and the nation under siege. They both come together.

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And very well too. I really enjoyed Elantris.

I recently picked up The Reincarnationist by M. J. Rose. Never heard of this author, but it looked interesting anyway. Haven't read much, though. I'm too busy with other things and I was mainly reading when I took breaks to smoke a cigarette. I haven't had a cigarette in two weeks now, so...

(Notice I didn't say I quit. It's just been a while since my last cigarette).

What I have read so far wasn't bad.

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Reading Bernard Cornwell's Azincourt, a novel set in the time of Henry V's invasion of France in 1415.

It's well-written and an interesting subject, but everything in it is really horrible emoticon

The peasants are horrible, the soldiers are horrible, the lords are horrible, the priests are the most horrible of all... everyone is just so horrible and unlikeable, I'm glad I didn't live in those times emoticon



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Is there is anyone at all in the story that's likable? At least with Thomas Covenant, there were other characters you could feel for even if you couldn't stand Covenant (since he really was rather despicable).

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I wonder if Covenant was really all that despicable. Most people don't react all to well to getting dragged in to life and death battles for the world. Admittedly it is rather some time ago since I've read it, so I can't properly recall, but I believe I didn't think he was entirely disagreeable. Just not the person you actually wanted for the situation, surprising almost that in the end he fought at all, though I suppose he did not have all that many good choices.
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I read Elantris last year and I was happily surprised with how well Sanderson can spin a yarn. I'm actually considering going back and slogging through Book 11 of The Wheel of Time just so I can read Sanderson's concluding volume.

Currently I am reading Island in the Sea of Time by S.M. Stirling, the first in his "Nantucket" series. It's entertaining enough, though I wouldn't ever accuse Stirling of having a rich storytelling voice. It reads a bit more like a guy laying out a series of cool ideas. Seems to be a problem with a lot of science fiction authors.
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I wonder if Covenant was really all that despicable. Most people don't react all to well to getting dragged in to life and death battles for the world. Admittedly it is rather some time ago since I've read it, so I can't properly recall, but I believe I didn't think he was entirely disagreeable. Just not the person you actually wanted for the situation, surprising almost that in the end he fought at all, though I suppose he did not have all that many good choices.



Well, honestly, I think I exaggerated the point. He does a few things along the way that make you want to beat some sense into him but, yeah, you're right. Truth is, I couldn't help finding the character extremely interesting in contrast to most "heroic" characters in fantasy, and those books rank among my favorites.

Still haven't read anymore in The Reincarnationist. I need to read a little...

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